The Big Four

Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax.

Tough call to decide which one is the best as all of them have changed quite a bit over the years one would say!

What turned me off from Metallica is all of their corporate attitude bs and how they somehow forgot that they were once a punk rock COVER band.

Slayer kinda turned into a nu-metal band but I guess they are getting old so they have a vaild excuse. At least they are still heavy and play their old classics live.

Anthrax hasn't really put out a good album in 15 years which is kinda sad. A wise man once said they should hang up their boots. Maybe just keep S.O.D. alive?

Megadeth is my pick of the best of the big four. Reasons why is Dave Mustaine comes up with some killer riffs, he made Metallica rule and he was too heavy for them, so they kicked him out. Also, Megadeth didn't really slow down too much untill after Youthanasia. At least they didn't become complete corportate whores and sue napster and shit like that. Only problem is Dave talks about religion etc but I think he's too crazy to take any of that serious, plus how can you forget how hard RUST IN PEACE rules or PEACE SELLS?

Whats your pick for the best of the Big Four?

depends what period you're thinking of
looking back to their entire carriers, they all had their moment of glory before starting to suck so no one wins today.
Metallica ruled from early to mid-80s, then Slayer ruled from mid to late 80s, then Megadeth ruled in the early 90s...as for Anthrax...they too had fine times but cannot compete with the other three I think...

I think Metallica was probably the most influential and "innovative" thrash metal band on their 4-5 first albums...

Megadeth did a lot of good songs, but it wasn't the same... And the vocals of Dave Mustaine didn't help them too much, even if I liked it...

Slayer was extreme, and did a bunch of classic songs... But it was always a bit the same kind of thrashing riffs, and they repeated themselves several times (It's usually tolerated in the underground, but Slayer was at such kind of level I'm more demanding about the music...) ... Until they turned to Nu metalcore!

gabalgabow wrote:

I think Metallica was probably the most influential and "innovative" thrash metal band on their 4-5 first albums...

Megadeth did a lot of good songs, but it wasn't the same... And the vocals of Dave Mustaine didn't help them too much, even if I liked it...

That's the thing with Mustaines vokills, they are so unique that you either love them or hate them, personally I think they are really good. They fit his lyrical content and Megadeths musical approach.

Metallica's first 5 albums are absolute fucking classics and I will always love these albums!

worshipsatanzine wrote:

That's the thing with Mustaines vokills, they are so unique that you either love them or hate them, personally I think they are really good. They fit his lyrical content and Megadeths musical approach.

Metallica's first 5 albums are absolute fucking classics and I will always love these albums!

I'm kinda bored with the "Love it or hate it" thing... Really, the Mustaine vocals are more and more "Ok, that's all" for me... That's the same with many things supposed to be drastically shocking... Peoples don't know anymore what to invent to sell their shit... :down

gabalgabow wrote:

I'm kinda bored with the "Love it or hate it" thing... Really, the Mustaine vocals are more and more "Ok, that's all" for me... That's the same with many things supposed to be drastically shocking... Peoples don't know anymore what to invent to sell their shit... :down

Understandable.

But for me personally, I have been deep into Megadeth for quite some time so yeah, they rule imo!

These days, who do you think is trying to be shocking?

I can't think of anybody trying to schock these days, actually everything is way too much consensual.

I have to disagree with Gab's point, Mustaine's vocals at least have personnality and cannot be mistaken.

"I can't think of anybody trying to schock these days, actually everything is way too much consensual".

G: You didn't get what I said: I mean many bands and labels will do anything to promote themselves at all costs, and you often have slogans like "Killer ultra killing death metal" or anything, while it's nothing special... Take some french bands like BALROG, or look at the advertisements of Listenable records for exemple...

"I have to disagree with Gab's point, Mustaine's vocals at least have personnality and cannot be mistaken"

Even if it has personality, it doesn't mean one can only "love it or hate it".
I'm very often quite neutral in front of these "You should hate it or love it!!!!" things lol... Sometimes it seems to be one more slogan for blind or dumb fans/ reviewers to promote something average and make you ashame coz you don't share their own tastes

worshipsatanzine wrote:

Metallica's first 5 albums are absolute fucking classics and I will always love these albums!

same here. no matter how much the band sucks today, these albums are untouchable (at least the first four). these are my deepest roots in metal, they changed my life forever. I don't even care if it's mainstream today.

gabalgabow wrote:

"I can't think of anybody trying to schock these days, actually everything is way too much consensual".

G: You didn't get what I said: I mean many bands and labels will do anything to promote themselves at all costs, and you often have slogans like "Killer ultra killing death metal" or anything, while it's nothing special... Take some french bands like BALROG, or look at the advertisements of Listenable records for exemple...

"I have to disagree with Gab's point, Mustaine's vocals at least have personnality and cannot be mistaken"

Even if it has personality, it doesn't mean one can only "love it or hate it".
I'm very often quite neutral in front of these "You should hate it or love it!!!!" things lol... Sometimes it seems to be one more slogan for blind or dumb fans/ reviewers to promote something average and make you ashame coz you don't share their own tastes

labels are operated by devoted people who believe in the bands they sign, why are you always so cynical? :mrgreen:

Tigi wrote:

worshipsatanzine wrote:

Metallica's first 5 albums are absolute fucking classics and I will always love these albums!

same here. no matter how much the band sucks today, these albums are untouchable (at least the first four). these are my deepest roots in metal, they changed my life forever. I don't even care if it's mainstream today.

Yeah, I don't really give a fuck that they are mainstream today either, their first 5 albums make up for any of their recent nonsence.

Tigi wrote:

labels are operated by devoted people who believe in the bands they sign, why are you always so cynical? :mrgreen:

labels are operated by greedy peoples who believe in the money the bands they signed can bring them, why are you always so homosexual?

worshipsatanzine wrote:

Yeah, I don't really give a fuck that they are mainstream today either, their first 5 albums make up for any of their recent nonsence.

Well,
if I couldn't see, hear and think about such big loss everywhere so often,
that would be good...
And all these dumb peoples who think Load, Reload, Rereload are killer albums... what a laugh! :sarcastic:

gabalgabow wrote:

Tigi wrote:

labels are operated by devoted people who believe in the bands they sign, why are you always so cynical? :mrgreen:

labels are operated by greedy peoples who believe in the money the bands they signed can bring them, why are you always so homosexual?

because my real name is Impure Ass, I like to shit myself and have lubeless sex with guys in tight leather pants

gabalgabow wrote:

worshipsatanzine wrote:

Yeah, I don't really give a fuck that they are mainstream today either, their first 5 albums make up for any of their recent nonsence.

Well,
if I couldn't see, hear and think about such big loss everywhere so often,
that would be good...
And all these dumb peoples who think Load, Reload, Rereload are killer albums... what a laugh! :sarcastic:

I'm stuck in the 80's metal wise for the most part so I don't even notice all those Load-Reload the cum fuckers.

worshipsatanzine wrote:

I'm stuck in the 80's metal wise for the most part so I don't even notice all those Load-Reload the cum fuckers.

Cool for you!

Well, I keep a look at all what happens, might it be metawwwl or not (some French sites are not bad at it) so I get the rerereloaded shit in my face! Uh.

gabalgabow wrote:

worshipsatanzine wrote:

I'm stuck in the 80's metal wise for the most part so I don't even notice all those Load-Reload the cum fuckers.

Cool for you!

Well, I keep a look at all what happens, might it be metawwwl or not (some French sites are not bad at it) so I get the rerereloaded shit in my face! Uh.

yeah those re-re-reloaded cum shots can be prettttty fuckin heavy! :sarcastic:

None of em eheh!
I like my small one better

christkum wrote:

None of em eheh!
I like my small one better

So... You have only one?

where are iron maiden ? MORTORHEAD ?

blindhead wrote:

where are iron maiden ? MORTORHEAD ?

He was referring to the BIG 4 of Thrash metal,
these 4 bands were often associated in the metal press

je suis desolé mais j'ai rien compris !!tu sais je suis pas super fort a !!a 13 ans on est pas un bosse en anglais !

blindhead wrote:

je suis desolé mais j'ai rien compris !!tu sais je suis pas super fort a !!a 13 ans on est pas un bosse en anglais !

Ok!

Il faisait référence aux "BIG 4" du thrash metal,
ces 4 groupes étaient souvent associés dans les mags métal.

ok !merci j'avais pas compris !!j'ai voté slayer !!c'est mes preferes dans le tas ! :lol!:

For me, METALLICA are the best. Their five first album kill. The changed my life. James Hetfield is one of the best rythm guitar player, his riffs are killing: Master of puppets, ride the lightning, seek and destroy...

If I play guitar now it's because of this fuckin' band.

MEGADETH is a good thrash band (rust in peace rules !!) but the sing of dave Mustaine is very "special". At the begining it was hard for me to listen to him, but now I recognize he imposed his style.

SLAYER is not my style of thrash. As Gab said, they repeated them. Now they can't be refered as a thrash metal band but as a non-inspired nu-metal.

Finally, I only know "among the living" from ANTHRAX. This album is very fuckin' good. There are only hymns on this cd. I heard some other songs from the first albums and I found this amazing.