CARNAL SADIST PRODUCTIONS / ANTI-HUMAN TERROR ZINE

Well, personally I was never ripped off by Ian, but i have been reading of many that have and also have seen links, infos etc and heard from certain band members that "he wanted to release their lps, pro cds) that he is a absoulte fraud.

I can NOT find any proof or reviews of his so called 80 something page zine "Anti-Human Terror" zine. Did he accept trade offers for add space and fuck off? Id say so.

His last claim was that he had cancer and needed time off?

if you search the net you will find all sorts of info that he is a scam artist.

Feel free to post these links here as my time is limited online these days.

Heres one source:

http://metalripoff.info/index.php/Labels/CARNAL-SADIST-Productions.html

and heres another one, on his very own message board that he doesn't even post on or reply too anymore:

http://carnalsadist.darkbb.com/general-bullshit-f10/about-orias-t269.htm

Also, he used to claim that his "wife" mailed out all of his packages for him when he was behind etc.

Why couldn't his "wife" do so now, or at least post updates on his myspace/message board giving a explaination as to why he feels its OK to accept peoples money/trades and not send his end of the deal?

I had to HARASS him once to recieve my end of a trade, and had to get others involved to bother him as well!

Had no problems with him myself personally.

If you had cancer, I'm sure you'd need time off as well. The treatments can be more intensive than the disease itself.

christkum wrote:

Had no problems with him myself personally.

If you had cancer, I'm sure you'd need time off as well. The treatments can be more intensive than the disease itself.

I'm not a specialist, but isn't 25 a bit too early to have such kind of severe cancer? Can it occur so early?

christkum wrote:

Had no problems with him myself personally.

If you had cancer, I'm sure you'd need time off as well. The treatments can be more intensive than the disease itself.

Cancer or no cancer, this still doesn't grant one the right to accept peoples money, and then not send their cds/tapes or whatever they have ordered.

Then, he closes down his website/store?

Doesn't this reek of being a RIP OFF SCAM ARTIST?

i've had to HARASS him and get others to HARASS him for me as well, to get my stuff he owed me!

Also, My bassist and I have caught and called him on a few lies. :lol!:

gabalgabow wrote:

I'm not a specialist, but isn't 25 a bit too early to have such kind of severe cancer? Can it occur so early?

It can happen at a very very young age.

In Ians case tho, I doubt he has cancer. I've met a couple compulsive liars over the years that are on life long disability, and they have claimed the same, that they are dying with cancer etc.

Mental disorders are a strange concept and I believe Ian defintally fits the critera for having a severe case.

I wonder what Anti-Human Terror issue #2 is comming out?

Beleeive or not I received e mail from the Orias and aksing me to provide it to persons like Keegan, Parasyte (Kreigsphilosophie), Nur ein Tier (Circle of Destruction) and JB (Cold Void Emanations)...Heres the mail he sent...

"It has been some time...one hell of a journey. I am sure there was talk about ripping people off and flaking on releases, and to an extent there is some truth...to another extent...I can't control what occurred. I have distanced myself from all the old warriors...not by choice, but by necessity. I was very dedicated to my label...to my comrades...and to keeping up my reputation as being reliable (sometimes slow...but always trustworthy.) I got so into it..that it dissolved my life outside of the underground. I dedicated so much of myself to Carnal Sadist Productions and Infurya that I lost my job, my home, and my partner and kids...at the same time...accomplishing NOTHING in the process.

I lost control. I was arrested for drug possession and public disturbance. I was sentenced to 2 years in jail, and served 6 months and had to rot in a halfway house for released convicts for another 6 months...work a shitty job...have my wardrobe and activities dictated to me..be told what I can eat, watch, listen to, wear..etc..I am a year clean and sober..and don't even drink alcohol at this point...at least not often. Some things have changed in my life..but some still remain the same. I have kept up with the underground metal happenings without ever making my presence felt..while still living my life.

Some people found me online, and I ignored them..maybe out of shame or embarrassment that I caved in and burned many bridges because of my lack of self-control. I find myself getting back into playing music recently. I've started simple...playing in various local punk/crust bands..anyone who knows me, knows my love of punk/crust was never a secret. I also began writing material that I feel is right back where I need to be personally...stripped down, simple, and fast. I'm waiting for the proper time to come forward personally..as anyone who knows me will attest..I give it my all..and I am too ambitious for my own good...so I must take baby steps now. I must know I am comfortable enough to get back into things and not lose myself in them like before.

I can't recall who I owe what to..the last month or two of running CSP was chaotic for me. I can't guarantee I still have a lot of material I traded or released. I lost a lot of things when I lost my storage unit and home. However, once I gather my material and belongings I will make good on my words. Those who know me, and have dealt with me often can vouch for words and those are the ones who will trust in me...those who don't...I don't really give a shit at this point in my life. Take me at face value or bite the bullet."

O.NV
21 July 2010

If some of these individuals want to contact him try on
bonyorbitrecords@gmail.com
as Ive got e mail from that one...

avrlabel wrote:

"I dedicated so much of myself to Carnal Sadist Productions and Infurya that I lost my job, my home, and my partner and kids...at the same time...accomplishing NOTHING in the process.

I can understand spending too much time with underground activities can affect your normal life, I already felt the same towards various things and had to slow down...
But what he says, it's quite a bit of too much: Lost job AND home AND Kids...

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avrlabel wrote:

I can understand spending too much time with underground activities can affect your normal life, I already felt the same towards various things and had to slow down...
But what he says, it's quite a bit of too much: Lost job AND home AND Kids...

yeah i agree.. who knows maybe he means that he lost it partly because of his drug problem?
i dont know the dude, so have no clue whats going on other than what i gathered here..

i wonder where he's from that he got 2 years for drug possession. here you would need quite a bit of drugs (or previous convictions) to get 2 years for drug possession. of course not if the current govt has its way and passes the new tough-on-crime laws..

Samizdat wrote:

i wonder where he's from that he got 2 years for drug possession. here you would need quite a bit of drugs (or previous convictions) to get 2 years for drug possession. of course not if the current govt has its way and passes the new tough-on-crime laws..

Don't take everything this guy says as first degree...

Boy..am I a popular topic lately.

I can attest to the lies. I can attest to the rip offs...not so much the scamming. I guess being a drug addict with no self control can do it to you. Most drug addicts are compulsive liars and potential thieves anyway..

My intent wasn't to scam..hence why there weren't tons of people getting fucked over by me..A few..but not as many as it seems. I made poor choices and tried to compensate with over ambition. I burned myself out..and honestly didn't give a shit once my health and addictions became more important.

I guess I didn't phrase my words right..CSP didn't ruin my life. Drug addiction and trying to do too much, that in the back of my head..I knew I couldn't accomplish killed my life.

As far as the cancer went..wasn't cancer. It was pulmonary edema. It doesn't affect any particular age group. The symptons are quite lovely by the way. I got addicted to the meds I was taking..and that's where shit went south. I didn't care about anything else but drugs at that point..and I did in fact lose everything. Long story short..an addict can't be trusted with your money or goods.

To clear up the jail business...2 year sentence was lenient..I could've hit a 5 year minimum. I didn't do 2 years..I barely did six months, on the conditions I entered rehabilitation/support groups and a halfway house after release. I've done quite well for myself lately..so I figured it would be a good time to come forward after about 2 years of silence.

I don't care if any of you like me, or have anything negative to say in regards to me, because I'm being blunt and truthful at this point. If I have a debt to square..forward all hatemail, questions, or debt collecting to wombdagger@gmail.com I have already settled some issues with Shaxul/Legion of Death Records and JB of Cold Void Emanations, whom I owe materials to. I am also aware of owing Livercage, Maltkross Prod, and Slave Prod. goods as well.

I have no intentions of attempting to reform CSP..so no worries, I won't be in the market of potentially ripping anyone off. I'm only making my presence known to correct some issues.

Keegan: BTW...I didn't shut my website down. It was hosted by circleofdestruction.net and was shut down in my absence by Amy for no communication or activity...like you said...I never did anything to you..so your hasty insinuation is quite off.

To be honnest:
You can come here to solve the problems and get back to peoples who still had to receive something, no problem.

But I wouldn't see you talking again on the other parts of this forum.
I don't like peoples who talk so much that they invent lies and fantasies bullshits, whatever excuse there might be, and you said enough in the past.

gabalgabow wrote:

To be honnest:
You can come here to solve the problems and get back to peoples who still had to receive something, no problem.

But I wouldn't see you talking again on the other parts of this forum.
I don't like peoples who talk so much that they invent lies and fantasies bullshits, whatever excuse there might be, and you said enough in the past.

I have no interest in building more social structures and making conversations..so that is not a worry.

worshipsatanzine wrote:

Then, he closes down his website/store? :

Just on that note, I think I wrote in the other topic here that I deleted his site due to no contact, at whatever point I deleted his site. Since he was not replying to emails, I didn't want it on my domain if I had no clue wtf was going on, and didn't want people trying to buy shit from his site, etc. if he was AWOL.

gabalgabow wrote:

Samizdat wrote:

i wonder where he's from that he got 2 years for drug possession. here you would need quite a bit of drugs (or previous convictions) to get 2 years for drug possession. of course not if the current govt has its way and passes the new tough-on-crime laws..

Don't take everything this guy says as first degree...

Its impossible that he was in the plunger for 6 months as he was signing into myspace. Or can you myspace in jail these days?

bonyorbitrecords@gmail.com

Must be the name of Ians new record label?

Bonyorbit records?

worshipsatanzine wrote:

bonyorbitrecords@gmail.com

Must be the name of Ians new record label?

Bonyorbit records?

This is an american label from: Cocoa, Federated States of Micronesia 32922

gabalgabow wrote:

worshipsatanzine wrote:

bonyorbitrecords@gmail.com

Must be the name of Ians new record label?

Bonyorbit records?

This is an american label from: Cocoa, Federated States of Micronesia 32922

I wonder whom runs it ?

http://www.myspace.com/bonyorbitrecords

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gabalgabow wrote:

I wonder whom runs it ?

Why, you had unwanted sexual intercourse with them?

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worshipsatanzine wrote:

gabalgabow wrote:

I wonder whom runs it ?

Why, you had unwanted sexual intercourse with them?

Just curious as Ian's email address is the labels name, and the label is from Florida. Thats all.

I don't understand how blaming drugs is a good excuse. I know many drug users that work full time without any issues. Sending some packages in the mail, isn't a difficult task. It's not like he was running "relapse" records for example.